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48466. Paul Laycock              Re: ami yellow pages
48467. Alan L.M. Buxey           BVisions
48468. Alan L.M. Buxey           The Ticker
48469. Nick Lamburn              Re: Ramlib problem.
48470. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: Ramlib problem.
48471. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: Ramlib problem.
48472. Christopher Bayliss       Re: Yamaha 8424S (internal) Questions
48473. Mikey C                   Re: Ramlib problem.
48474. Mikey C                   Re: Ramlib problem.
48475. Administrator             Official course on Introduction to CMM (SW) - SEI
48476. Nick Lamburn              Re: Ramlib problem.
48477. Mikey C                   Re: Ramlib problem.
48478. Matthew Garrett           Re: Will we get the G4s?
48479. Nick Lamburn              Re: Ramlib problem.
48480. Oliver Masters            Re: Naughty Boy
48481. Paul Laycock              Re: BVisions
48482. Nick Lamburn              Scandoublers and FlickerFixers
48483. Paul Laycock              Re: Scandoublers and FlickerFixers
48484. Alan L.M. Buxey           RDB salv
48485. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: BVisions
48486. Toffypops                 Re: Will we get the G4s?
48487. Dauber                    Re: Viper 630
48488. Ben Vost                  Re: Will we get the G4s?
48489. Toffypops                 Re: friddged... - Bio technology based NG Amigas?
48490. Daniel Thornton           Re: Blaming parents
48491. Daniel Thornton           Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
48492. Rudi Butler               Re: Scandoublers and FlickerFixers
48493. Toffypops                 Re: Epson stylus 660
48494. Adam James                AF136 Idea
48495. Paul Laycock              Re: BVisions
48496. Tudor Davies              BVisions at Alive
48497. Adam James                Re: AF136
48498. Neil Bothwick             Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48499. Tudor Davies              Re: AF136 Idea
48500. Mikey C                   Re: BVisions at Alive
48501. Tudor Davies              Re: BVisions at Alive
48502. Toffypops                 Re: Naughty Boy
48503. Andy Mills                Re: ami yellow pages
48504. Andy Mills                Re: Polls - was: New ABC
48505. Andy Mills                Re: Blaming parents
48506. Andy Mills                Re: HTML question
48507. Toffypops                 Re: Will we get the G4s?
48508. Sean FT                   Re: Ramlib problem.(Be sure,you know what it is f
48509. Toffypops                 Re: HTML question
48510. Toffypops                 FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48511. Matthew Garrett           A500 accelerators
48512. =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?=      Amiga spotting
48513. Mikey C                   Re: Ramlib problem.(Be sure,you know what it is f
48514. Alan L.M. Buxey           Re: BVisions
48515. Sean FT                   Re: Ramlib problem.No other SETPATCH!!
48516. Mikey C                   Re: Ramlib problem.No other SETPATCH!!
48517. Daniel Thornton           Re: A500 accelerators
48518. Oliver Masters            PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
48519. David McMinn              Re: Amiga spotting
48520. Sean FT                   Re: A500 accelerators,try this firm?
48521. Gerald Mellor             Re: Am I missing the point ?
48522. Gerald Mellor             Re: AF136
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 03:32:33 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Matthew,

> > Besides which, Michael (cos that's his name: Michael Carillo) was
going to
> > shut it down soon anyway because of a lack of interest from, guess
who?
> > Amiga users.
>
> Quit blaming us, how about his lack of plugging? I'd never heard of
his site
> until a couple of days ago, and Ive never seen a link to it on any
other
> amiga site, so maybe he is to blame. search engines dont give any
results
> either

Its not that easy to get people to visit your site; believe me, I've
tried. Sure, you can have it in the tagline of every mail you send, but
people usually have to pay for their own phone bills, so think "It
might be crap, I'm not going to waste money". Not that AYP was; I
thought it was a great site.
I've given up plugging my site. To be honest with you, I think I'm the
only visitor to it!

Paul Laycock



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:35:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Paul Laycock wrote:

> I would go fo it, except for the fact that I have my order placed so
> deeply at WhiteKnight that it would take them just as long to cancel it!

add this to the fact that buy buying it yourself from a reputable dealer
(and with a credit card?) you have a lot of protection..especially if
the original owner decided to do some hacking at the hardware
(overclocking, fan addition that went wrong etc etc)

alan



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:37:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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hi,

> Only weekly, pah!  :) You'll never catch a baaaaaargain that way, me, I
> check it every hour... :)  That way; you can be sure there will be a
> baaaaaargain awaiting you... :)

you know that theres a small ticker app that gives you the latest
Amiga news headlines?

well, how about a ticker that pages you the latest advert placed on
amibench?


alan



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 03:38:06 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Mikey,

> > This actually sounds quite bad because ramlib is ROM based; now when
> > you say mucking about with your Amiga, do you mean inside of it or
> > playing about with software.
>
> Nick thanks for taking the time out....

That's quite alright, I'm bored ridgid anyway sitting here at
College... :)

> .....I knew I was going to be in trouble here. :(
>
> I'll try and make this brief, using OS3.5 I Shortend my empty DH4
> partition and created a DH5. (I re-booted and booted OS30 HD install
> disk, and installed OS30 to DH5)
> (note DH0 Boot priority 1. DH5, -1)
>
> The idea of having the OS30 is, that I can run all my old Amiga games
> favourites, Pinball Fantasies, Fury of The Furries, Chaos Engine (all
> broken with an 040) OS30 requires minumum mem to boot, so I can run
> these games.
> (BTW I already installed Pinball and Fury of the Furries on to DH5)

Makes sense, okay....

> Now neither boot partiotion will boot. What's worse is that DH0 to DH2
> use PFS2. DH3 is a Mac Partition. DH4 & DH5 use FFS (OS35) and when I
> boot from floppy, only DH3 to DH5 are viewable.

Oooooh I have an idea... :)

> > All I can say at this time is: are the ROMs seater properly, does
the
> > machine have sufficient ventilalation?
>
> The machine has most definately got more than sufficent ventilation.

Okay, guess it's in a tower then...

> > Also, you were fooling :) about with your hard disk partitions;
> there's
> > a possibility you have done something to the RDB of the Hard Disk
and
> > you may need to try and recover it with something like Angela's
> > Schmidt's (i think that's the name :) RDB Salv.  I mean, can you
> > actually access the hard disks at all?  If you can, perhaps it is
> > something to do with the RDB.
>
> I doubt if RDB salv will restore a PFS2 partition.

True, see my idea below...

> I'm looking at heartbreak motel here ain't I?

motel?! :)  Ahem, seriouly there is still a chance here! :)
Now there are a few things I notice here, DH0 to DH2 are PFS2 partitons
and therefore require the PFS filesystem to be written to the hard
disk's RDB i think, well it's something on the lines of that the ROM
base FastFileSystem can be replaced at boot time, bla bla... :)  Now,
the thing that worries me is that the PFS FS has got corrupted or
something; and I guess that these partitons are not available at all.
(E.g.: on Workbench you get DH0:???? or something else..)  What is
needed is to make sure the PFS FS is okay; and then see if you can make
a DOSDriver to mount the partition using PFS's FS.  I would make one
now for you for your Hard Disk but:

A) I don't know the specs of the hard disk (eg: where the partiton
starts and ends, cylinders etc.)
B) I haven't wrriten a MountList entry or DOSDriver entry since 1996 or
so :)
C) I am at college

If you could write one which will mount your DH0, DH1 and Dh2
partitions with the PFS FS then you will at least be able to salvage
your stuff if it comes to that, ie: the excrement hits the fan! :)

Is this any more of a help?

Also, Automount and Bootable partition is set on DH0-DH2 and they do
have high enough priorities?  Do they show up in the Early Startup
devices list? (the top button of the three)

That's all I can think of at this present time! :)

All the best,

Nick.

> Regards
>
> Mikey C
>
>
>



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:39:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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hi,

> Last night I was mucking about with my Amiga.

exactly what where you doing?

> To cut a long story short, now it refuses to boot up. (unless it's from
> floppy)
> ( I can't get it to boot without startup sequence) I keep getting the
> message ramlib failed to execute (or sometjing like that) and then the
> option to suspend ot reboot.

had this before with dodgy "warm reboot" programs/hacks/patches. turn
the machine off for one minute, THEN keep both mouse buttons pressed
down and do the old 'no startup-sequeunce' shenanigans.

alan



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:43:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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hi,

> Now neither boot partiotion will boot. What's worse is that DH0 to DH2
> use PFS2. DH3 is a Mac Partition. DH4 & DH5 use FFS (OS35) and when I
> boot from floppy, only DH3 to DH5 are viewable.
>
> I doubt if RDB salv will restore a PFS2 partition.
>
> I'm looking at heartbreak motel here ain't I?

ah! It does indeed look as if your RDB is shagged. RDB_salv *can* sort
this out...all it does is the RDB, not fix the partitions. all it needs
to do is add the PFS2 ID to the RDB..so that the Amiga can once again
recognise PFS2 FS partitions. if the RDB gets screwed, then the
filesystem info stored there gets killed or corrupted. Not the end of
the world at all - by using HDToolBox (and reading the PFS2 docs) you
can add the PFS2 info to the RDB yourself...just , for the start!, use
RDB_salv to get a working system back (minus PFS2 stuff initially)

alan



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 03:43:30 -0800
From: "Christopher Bayliss" <[e-mail]>
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> be VERY careful. very careful indeed with these 68-50 convertors. many
> of them DONT have termination on the upper 18 pins..this leads to
> problems. All you need is a 50-way cable, with a single convertor for
> the 68pin device

 Eyetech had a couple of cables that do the job HD->Centronics
Centronics->ICD
all of them 50 pin. The drive should arrive by thursday so ill soon
know if it works

> just make sure the last device in the chain has termination. the card
> should have it as well, or the signals would reach that end and bounce

Ill try it without termination to begin with if it doesn`t work ill get
a terminator localy.

Thanks for your help

Chris Bayliss



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 03:51:56 -0800
From: "Mikey C" <[e-mail]>
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"nick lamburn" <[e-mail]> wrote:
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Hello again Nick,

> Oooooh I have an idea... :)

- I'm soooo glad you said that ;)


> > > All I can say at this time is: are the ROMs seater properly, does
> the
> > > machine have sufficient ventilalation?
> >
> > The machine has most definately got more than sufficent ventilation.
>
> Okay, guess it's in a tower then...

Yep. A1200T PPC/040

> True, see my idea below...
>
> > I'm looking at heartbreak motel here ain't I?
>
> Now, the thing that worries me is that the PFS FS has got corrupted or
> something; and I guess that these partitons are not available at all.
> (E.g.: on Workbench you get DH0:???? or something else..)

Nope, none of the partitions show up.

>What is needed is to make sure the PFS FS is okay; and then see if you
can make
> a DOSDriver to mount the partition using PFS's FS.  I would make one
> now for you for your Hard Disk but:
>
> A) I don't know the specs of the hard disk (eg: where the partiton
> starts and ends, cylinders etc.)
> B) I haven't wrriten a MountList entry or DOSDriver entry since 1996
or
> so :)
> C) I am at college

You are way ahead of me either way pal, since you have totally lost me!

> If you could write one which will mount your DH0, DH1 and Dh2
> partitions with the PFS FS then you will at least be able to salvage
> your stuff if it comes to that, ie: the excrement hits the fan! :)

Some, I take it I should get boot floppy and install the PFS fast file
to it?

> Is this any more of a help?

A little, it's a plan anyhow.

> Also, Automount and Bootable partition is set on DH0-DH2 and they do
> have high enough priorities?  Do they show up in the Early Startup
> devices list? (the top button of the three)

Yep, they do show up at the early startup menu. I have tried disabling
the DH5 or DH0 partition and instructing which partition to boot from,
but I still get the ramlib error.

> That's all I can think of at this present time! :)

Here's hoping you can think some more ;)

Regards

Mikey C




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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 03:54:57 -0800
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"alan l.m. buxey" <[e-mail]> wrote:
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eartbreak motel here ain't I?
>
> use RDB_salv to get a working system back (minus PFS2 stuff initially)
>
> alan
>

Alan, if you could so kindly point me in the direction of RDB salv.
- is it on the Aminet?

Regards

Mikey C




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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:28:07 +0500
From: Administrator <[e-mail]>
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Dear Chief Executive,

I wish to inform you that the Government of India, Ministry of Information
Technology / STQC Directorate has reached a long-term agreement with
Carnegie Mellon University (CMU), USA, for offering SEI Software Capability
Maturity Model(SW-CMM) technologies for the benefit of Indian software
industries.  Under the agreement, six of us from MIT/STQC have been trained
and authorised to teach  the Introduction to CMM course. Our team has so
far conducted 9 Intro' to CMM courses in various cities in the country,
thus bringing CMM technologies nearer to the Indian software industries.The
next course on SEI Intro' to CMM course will be conducted at GRT Grand
Days, Pondy Bazar, Chennai on March 9-11, 2000. . This 3 day course is an
official SEI Course.  This course is suitable for the senior executives who
are connected with the following activities.

* Software Quality Assurance
* Software Engineering Process Group(SEPG)
* Process Improvement
* Process Audit

It is definitely a useful course for Sr. Management including CEO for
building TQM based processes in the organization for long term success and
prosperity.

The participants of the official  Course will get a SEI/CMU certificate and
also are registered in the SEI database. This is an essential prerequisite
for   assessors. The courses will help in planning for implementation of a
system meeting higher levels of maturity in the CMM.

I am enclosing herewith the course brochure for  the course.  I would
appreciate  if you could  nominate your senior executives to attend the 3
day official course and derive maximum benefits.


With regards,
Yours sincerely,
R. Subburaj
Director
ETDC, Chennai


Introduction to the Capability Maturity ModelSM
for Software (SW-CMM(R) )

Official Course of Carnegie Mellon University, (CMU), Pittsburgh, USA
Organized by STQC Directorate, Department of Electronics

The SEI Capability Maturity Model for Software (SW-CMM) describes a
famework that organizations can use to determine their ability to develop
and maintain software; it is a model for organizational improvement.  The
SW-CMM is based on the process management work of W.Edwards Deming, Joseph
M. Juran, and Phillip B. Crosby, and can be applied by organizations to
improve their software process through a software process assessment.  The
SW-CMM also can be applied by acquisition organizations to select qualified
software vendors via contractor evaluations.

Are you comfortable with your staff's understanding of the SW-CMM?

Are you planning a CMM-bused improvement program and need a better grasp of
the Software CMM issues involved?

This three-day course introdues participants to the SW-CMM and its
fundamental concepts.  The course discussion emphasizes understanding of
the five maturity levels and their characteristic key process areas (KPAs).
 The course is based on version 1.1 of the SW-CMM, released in February 1993.

The Course is composed of lectures and class exercises with ample
opportunity for participant questions and discussions.

Introduction to the SW-CMM helps prepare participants to make valid
judgments regarding an organization's implememntation of the KPAs.  The
course is helpful in identifying issues that should be addressed in
performing software process improvement as structured by the SW-CMM.

Course topics include

* Introduction about the process program
* Software process maturity SW-CMM principles
* SW-CMM overview
* Value of the SW-CMM-case studies of software process improvement
* Levels and key process areas of the SW-CMM
* Linking the KPAs together-common themes
* Interpreting the SW-CMM
* Future directions of the SW-CMM

Special features of this course

* The course is conducted by CMU authorised Introduction to CMM Trainers
* This is a prerequisite course for becoming SEI authorised assessors,
Instructors, and evaluators.
* Participants will be registered in Central database maintained by SEI, USA.


Who should attend this course?

Software managers and practitioners interested in the Capability Maturity
Model for Software (SW-CMM)

Software process assessment (CBA IPI), software capability, evaluation
(SCESM ), or other appraisal teams using the CMM.

Software engineering process group (SEPG) member who are doing software
process improvement.

 Date             :    March 9-11, 2000
Venue            :    GRT Grand Days, Pondy Bazar, Chennai

Course Faculty    :    CMU authorized Intro' to CMM trainers
1. Mr.R. Subburaj
2. Mr.R. Ravindran

No.of  Participants    :    Total number of seats will be restricted to 30. The
registration will be on first-cum-first serve basis.


Discount: 10% discount to organisations   sponsoring three or more
participants

 Regular fee for this course is Rs. 15,500 /-.

Course Duration :  3 Days, March 9 - 11, 2000  From 9. 30 AM To 6.00 PM

March 9, 2000 : 9.00 AM               -    Registration

Nominations :    Nominations along with the course fee by local cheque or
        Demand   Draft  drawn  in   favour   of  "Director, ETDC, Chennai."
payable at chennai may be sent to :

The Director
 Electronics Test & Development Centre
Near Lattice Bridge, Thiruvanmiyur
Chennai - 600 041.

Ph: 044 - 492 9893, 492 6773, 492 8192
Fax: 044 - 492 5713
e-mail: [e-mail]


Government of India
Ministry of Information Technology
STQC Directorate
Electronics Test & Development Centre
Thiruvanmiyur, Near Lattice Bridge
Chennai  600 041.

Ph: 044 - 492 6773/9893/8192/6338
Fax: 044 - 492 5713
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:05:27 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi again Mikey, :)

> > Oooooh I have an idea... :)
>
> - I'm soooo glad you said that ;)

It is nice when someone says that to you innit! :)  Aaaaanyway...

> > > > All I can say at this time is: are the ROMs seater properly,
does
> > the
> > > > machine have sufficient ventilalation?
> > >
> > > The machine has most definately got more than sufficent
ventilation.
> >
> > Okay, guess it's in a tower then...
>
> Yep. A1200T PPC/040

Okay, I have now had a few more thoughts, and it seems as if the actual
Amiga spec is irrelevant ie: cooling is not an issue here...

> > True, see my idea below...
> >
> > > I'm looking at heartbreak motel here ain't I?
> >
> > Now, the thing that worries me is that the PFS FS has got corrupted
or
> > something; and I guess that these partitons are not available at
all.
> > (E.g.: on Workbench you get DH0:???? or something else..)
>
> Nope, none of the partitions show up.

On the Workbench screen that is I guess?
Try typing in at a CLI/Shell

C:Info

See if the partitions show up in that.  Also, I think if you type in:

C:Assign

At the bottom of the list is a list of mounted devices, if they show
(DH0-Dh2) show up in the Info listing they seem to be still there
(Early Startup gumph confirms that), if Assign doesn't show them then
it seems certain that all is needed is a FileSystem to mount them with.

> >What is needed is to make sure the PFS FS is okay; and then see if
you
> can make
> > a DOSDriver to mount the partition using PFS's FS.  I would make one
> > now for you for your Hard Disk but:
> >
> > A) I don't know the specs of the hard disk (eg: where the partiton
> > starts and ends, cylinders etc.)
> > B) I haven't wrriten a MountList entry or DOSDriver entry since 1996
> or
> > so :)
> > C) I am at college
>
> You are way ahead of me either way pal, since you have totally lost
me!

Oh, sorry mate.  Basically, a Mountlist or DOSDriver provides a way for
the Amiga to understand how to communicate with a device.  Take the
predicament you are in:

The Amiga speaks English say, and your FFS Hard Disk partitions speak
German and your PFS partitions Russian.  Now, a DOSDriver or Mountlist
could be looked at as being a translator.  So for example between your
Amiga and your DH3-5 partitions is a translator which takes all the
Amiga's stuff in English and converts it into German which the hard
disk partition DH3-5 can understand.  Now say for example that you have
no translator which converts English to Russian and vice versa.  Now
they cannot speak the same language and give up, the Amiga walks off in
a huff and makes what it can of the situation and spews out ramlib
gumph.

A DOSDriver provides the Amiga a translator.  If I could write a
DOSDriver for you you should be able to access DH0 etc.  If you could
send me
at [e-mail] the information in HDToolBox about
partitions DH0-2 (select partition drive and advanced options); there
should be loads of gumph about start and end cylinders etc., write it
down for each partition and send it to me!)  And I'll write a DOSDriver
tonight or tommorrow for you! :)

> > If you could write one which will mount your DH0, DH1 and Dh2
> > partitions with the PFS FS then you will at least be able to salvage
> > your stuff if it comes to that, ie: the excrement hits the fan! :)
>
> Some, I take it I should get boot floppy and install the PFS fast file
> to it?

Yes, try to install the PFS gumph on a bootable floppy disk.

> > Is this any more of a help?
>
> A little, it's a plan anyhow.

Good-o! :)

> > That's all I can think of at this present time! :)
>
> Here's hoping you can think some more ;)

Just have m8! :)
Hope this helps more! :)


All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:43:10 -0800
From: "Mikey C" <[e-mail]>
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"nick lamburn" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48476
Hi again Nick :)

> On the Workbench screen that is I guess?
> Try typing in at a CLI/Shell
>
> C:Info
>
> See if the partitions show up in that.  Also, I think if you type in:

erm, I would, but it would be off the floppy.

> C:Assign
>
> At the bottom of the list is a list of mounted devices, if they show
> (DH0-Dh2) show up in the Info listing they seem to be still there
> (Early Startup gumph confirms that), if Assign doesn't show them then
> it seems certain that all is needed is a FileSystem to mount them
with.

Okay, I'll stick the PFS2 driver onto a boot floppy.

SNIP

> Now say for example that you have
> no translator which converts English to Russian and vice versa.  Now
> they cannot speak the same language and give up, the Amiga walks off
in
> a huff and makes what it can of the situation and spews out ramlib
> gumph.

Thanks Nick, that I can understand.

> at [e-mail] the information in HDToolBox about
> partitions DH0-2 (select partition drive and advanced options); there
> should be loads of gumph about start and end cylinders etc., write it
> down for each partition and send it to me!)  And I'll write a
DOSDriver
> tonight or tommorrow for you! :)

Erm, I would, but the only HDTool box I have access to at the moment is
the OS3.0 one. and when I run it, it doesn't find the drive. when I try
and get it to recognise (or scan) it comes back with a totally
different drive (my HD is a 4.3gb one using IDEFIX'97 for CD rom
access) So, until I can dig up my Emergency OS35 boot disk, which I
just can't find, the wife had a tidy up, I'm buggered. :(

If I do, I'll give you a shout. :)

Cheers

Mikey C




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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:53:23 +0000
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 11:13:52AM +0000, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> almost all modern games, all the latest digital video things (DVD,
> digital video editing, mpegII encoding etc), Internet plugins etc ALL
> require great speed and power.  the G4 gives this....the PIII should
> give this, but MS Windows takes half of its power ;-)

Well, there you go - run a sensible operating system on it and the PIII
will outperform a G4 :)

--
Matthew Garrett | [e-mail]
(Whose college network has just been upgraded to 30 PIII 600s with Voodoo
3 3000 graphics cards which are capable of netbooting Linux. Nice.)


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:56:55 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Mikey,

> > On the Workbench screen that is I guess?
> > Try typing in at a CLI/Shell
> >
> > C:Info
> >
> > See if the partitions show up in that.  Also, I think if you type
in:
>
> erm, I would, but it would be off the floppy.

Should still show all the devices attached to the Miggy? :)

> > C:Assign
> >
> > At the bottom of the list is a list of mounted devices, if they show
> > (DH0-Dh2) show up in the Info listing they seem to be still there
> > (Early Startup gumph confirms that), if Assign doesn't show them
then
> > it seems certain that all is needed is a FileSystem to mount them
> with.
>
> Okay, I'll stick the PFS2 driver onto a boot floppy.
>
> SNIP

:)

> > Now say for example that you have
> > no translator which converts English to Russian and vice versa.  Now
> > they cannot speak the same language and give up, the Amiga walks off
> in
> > a huff and makes what it can of the situation and spews out ramlib
> > gumph.
>
> Thanks Nick, that I can understand.

Good-o! :)

> > at [e-mail] the information in HDToolBox about
> > partitions DH0-2 (select partition drive and advanced options);
there
> > should be loads of gumph about start and end cylinders etc., write
it
> > down for each partition and send it to me!)  And I'll write a
> DOSDriver
> > tonight or tommorrow for you! :)
>
> Erm, I would, but the only HDTool box I have access to at the moment
is
> the OS3.0 one. and when I run it, it doesn't find the drive. when I
try
> and get it to recognise (or scan) it comes back with a totally
> different drive (my HD is a 4.3gb one using IDEFIX'97 for CD rom
> access) So, until I can dig up my Emergency OS35 boot disk, which I
> just can't find, the wife had a tidy up, I'm buggered. :(

Okee Dokee, I forgot about that!

> If I do, I'll give you a shout. :)

There is light at the end of the tunnel Mikey, just that we appear only
to be at the very start of this particular tunnel! :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Oliver Masters" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:23:17 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Mason
> Hello all,
>
>         Last night I made a post titled "MP3 Downloading", asking
> how you do
> it as I have only been on the net for a week. Imagine my suprise
> at getting
> an email back saying it had been"put to moderator". What did I do
> wrong? Is
> downloading these illegal? There was no bad language, it was short and I
> had only posted about 6 or 7 emails in total over the 24 Hours.
>
> Comments please,Ben?

Well, I'm not Ben but I think I know what the problem is. All that has
happened is that the daily message limit (200?) has been reached, any
further messages are sent to the moderator and if he thinks they are worth
going over the limit for they are sent to the list. Otherwise I guess they
vanish into some form of email void.

Downloading MP3s is not in itself illegal. Downloading MP3s of copyright
material however is much the same as borrowing a CD from the library and
copying it. Everybody does it (not that I'm saying that makes it right of
course).

See ya later,

Oll



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:23:00 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Alan,

> > I would go fo it, except for the fact that I have my order placed so
> > deeply at WhiteKnight that it would take them just as long to
cancel it!
>
> add this to the fact that buy buying it yourself from a reputable
dealer
> (and with a credit card?) you have a lot of protection..especially if

Well, debit card, but at least I'll be able to know *exactly* where my
money goes. Plus I should get a warranty with a new one.


> the original owner decided to do some hacking at the hardware
> (overclocking, fan addition that went wrong etc etc)

You wouldn't have done this would you Alan? ;)

Paul Laycock



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:23:29 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

I am considering getting a Scan doubler and flicker fixer for my ickle
A600 project, now I need to know what ones are the best really?

An external version should work, since the internal ones are for AGA
aren't they? :)  Basically are there any differences between those
offered by Power and Eyetech.  Which one is the best?

Anybody got experience with one of these devices?

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:29:20 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Nick,

> I am considering getting a Scan doubler and flicker fixer for my ickle
> A600 project, now I need to know what ones are the best really?

What, the luggable one you were talking about?

> An external version should work, since the internal ones are for AGA
> aren't they? :)

Yes, the internal ones are AGA (A1200?) only.

> Basically are there any differences between those
> offered by Power and Eyetech.  Which one is the best?

I got mine from PowerC. The plastic case is a bit tacky, but it works
well enough. I do, however, get a bit more noticable interference (on
screen) than connected straight to the port.

Also, the mouse pointer seems to change; seems to be longer in height
than it used to (and yes, it is in hires mode).

> Anybody got experience with one of these devices?

Hmm, yes, about two weeks! ;)

Paul Laycock




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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:55:40 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Mikey C wrote:

> Alan, if you could so kindly point me in the direction of RDB salv.
> - is it on the Aminet?

disk/salv  on aminet

RDBSalv.lha

alan



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:57:35 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Paul Laycock wrote:

> You wouldn't have done this would you Alan? ;)

no. havent overclocked my PPC either...couldnt afford it if i made a
mistake doing so...I rather have a nice fast Amiga that works, than a
possibly faster one that is screwed

alan



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:09:25 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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andrew crowe <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48037
> Hi Everybody,
>
> > I seem to recall an American internet site advertising G4 for A500s
>
>    I'll wager a fiver on it either being a joke, or a
mis-interpretaion.
>
> See ya :)


I believe this to be true..since I saw a picture in an issue of AF
where an A500 was equiped with a PPC processor...don't remember what
type...
but..but...If Ben from AF read this and dissagree, then I must have
read something in the AF wrong...
It was in one of the Show reports....

Toffy



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From: "Dauber" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:08:05 -0500
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>I was under the impression this was an Apollo 630 until I ordered it
>yesterday (I was contemplating whether I should get the FPU or not
>because of my limited money and though: oh what the hell... :)), I was
>informed it is the Viper 630.  Perhaps a rehash of the Apollo 630.


Nah. Apollo and Viper are different XLR8Rs. The Apollo 630 allows you to put
a 72-pin SIMM (anywhere from 1MB to 32MB) onboard, but the Viper's RAM is
built-in; no adding or subtracting.

>...but it has no CD-ROM drive, drat!  (/me puts CD-ROM on the list)...


My advice to you: Squirrel for your A600; NOT Surf Squirrel. I've said that
many times, but you don't want a Surf Squirrel on a 600 -- it's a waste of
money, as the SCSI only works on a few [rather old] removable media drives,
if I remember correctly; it won't work on a CD-ROM. (The fast serial port
does work, though, providing you have an '020 or better. But you're better
off with a Whippet.) The "classic" Squirrel works like a charm, though.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:10:59 +0000
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Hi Toffypops,

> I believe this to be true..since I saw a picture in an issue of AF
> where an A500 was equiped with a PPC processor...don't remember what
> type...
> but..but...If Ben from AF read this and dissagree, then I must have
> read something in the AF wrong...
> It was in one of the Show reports....

It was a joke by DCE. They glued a Blizzard PPC to an A500 accelerator an=
d
put it on display - it was in our January issue, the K=F6ln show report.

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Are you on our Amiga Angels list yet? Help your fellow Amigan!




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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:26:27 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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> Uhmmmmmmm, just curious, but do you have=A0any kind of reference
> to back that claim up...?


Saw it in a feature on Discovery Channell..:D

Toffy



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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:13:15 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:18:04 +0000, [e-mail] wibbled...

> Try this: http://www.theweekly.co.uk/

I asked JN to explain the possibly hilarious joke that's been on the
front cover for the last two months, but he just laughed at me.

--
The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk ---------------------------------
    New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page...
   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:34:39 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:55:09 +0000 (GMT), [e-mail] wibbled...

> the unwanted behaviour is that they go off subject..and the titles dont
> change.

Perhaps, but that's not nearly as annoying as someone replying to long
dead threads.

> > old topics that are finished is annoying; if it's a reply to a question
> > posted by another user, fair enough, but it'd be even easier to reply
> > via private email.
> hello? did someone say mailing-list?

It's fine to answer single questions on list when the thread is fresh,
but if you were to do it a week later, it's pointless, because a) it's
probably already been answered, and b) if it hasn't been answered, the
person who posed the question will have given up looking for an answer
on the list anyway.

--
The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk ---------------------------------
    New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page...
   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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From: "Rudi Butler" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:47:33 -0000
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Hi Nick,

>
>I am considering getting a Scan doubler and flicker fixer for my ickle
>A600 project, now I need to know what ones are the best really?
>
>An external version should work, since the internal ones are for AGA
>aren't they? :)  Basically are there any differences between those
>offered by Power and Eyetech.  Which one is the best?
>
>Anybody got experience with one of these devices?
>
>All the best,
>
>Nick.


I use an EZVGA plus from Eyetech.  Seems to do the job well enough.
One gripe with it though, is when it bypasses signals higher than 15khz.
They seem to get degraded, this is a pain because at the moment I use DBLPAL
high-res no flicker which is a bit over 27khz.  This unit also has a flicker
fixer but it only fixes 15khz interlace modes.  The pointer looks strange in
these modes so I don't use them.

Cheers,
Rudi.




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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:42:46 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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> Does anyone know why my Epson printer prints text in red when i print
> from Multiview, amigaguide, PPGuide ? but in every other program i use
> the text/pictures are perfect, I am using the Turboprint driver Epson
> stylus 640
>
> PS: I strongly recommend people who use a Epson Printer to get
> Turboprint it's a excellent piece of software :-)

Check both in TP and WB's printer manager that you have not set DEFAULT
TEXT
to color(RGBC) or something...or that your black cartrige is not
empty...

But since you get these problems with Multiview, try to select EpsonXOLD
or another standard driver if you wanna print just text...might work..

set text to black in the printer prefs.....or set it to black/white...
don't remember right now whitch...

good luck...

Toffy



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From: Adam James <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:31:53 +0000
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Hello, Ben & all

Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games from
1988-1993/4 in DMS files :) better than downloading those crap adf
files.

And put on the CD some old AF floppy's in DMS files from the very first
AF floppy version up till AF CDs came in. with the Theme "Blast from the =
AF past" and use one page for the very first AF cover.  =


just a thought :-) =


-- =

Adam James

(PGP key avail)








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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:53:38 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Alan,

> > You wouldn't have done this would you Alan? ;)
>
> no. havent overclocked my PPC either...couldnt afford it if i made a

And there was me thinking you were the DIY kinda guy.

> mistake doing so...I rather have a nice fast Amiga that works, than a
> possibly faster one that is screwed

I wouldn't even think about it either. Me + Soldering iron = Danger! I
wouldn't put one near my Amiga, which means that, if I want a PCMCIA
ethernet card (in the future), I'll need to send the mobo away!
Nooooooo.....

Paul Laycock



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:53:47 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
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Well, the proof is in the pudding.

Advert on AmiBench from Steven Flowers (under Wanted/UK)

Wanted : blah, blash blah. blash
Oh I forgot an Blizzard Vision.

I think that this means that they don't have any, otherwise he would have
one himself :)

Strange though, he didn't have an advert for Goal2000 or Putty Squad -
surely he wants a copy to sell?

l8r
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From: Adam James <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:12:02 +0000
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Hello Alan

On 22-Feb-00 at 11:21:09, you wrote about [afb] Re: AF136

>
> hi,
>
>> How many miggy users would leave the amiga scene if there was no AF?
>
> well, I'm not still aroudn just because of a mag...its the machine I
> am interested in. But I get your point...and the magazine is a nice
> monthly treat

IMO amiga users who are not on the net might think just because there is
no amiga mag left (GOD Forbid) there is no more support from them,

I have been a Miggy user since i got my first A500 in the 80"s so mag or
no mag my amiga stays and my gameboy can go :-)

AF will be here in years to come :)

--
Adam James

(PGP key avail)








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Date: 22 Feb 2000 13:59:1 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Neil Bothwick said,

> By all means have a sire that sues JavaScript,

Can you tell that I'd had a late night typing and this was my first mail
of the morning? :)


Neil
--
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:58:19 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 02:31:53PM +0000, Adam James wrote:

> Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games from
> 1988-1993/4 in DMS files :) better than downloading those crap adf
> files.

1. Cos fewtch/AF don't have the money to pay the authors/publishers to do
it.
2. IT'S ILLEGAL - PIRACY DON'T YOU KNOW- DUH!

> And put on the CD some old AF floppy's in DMS files from the very first
> AF floppy version up till AF CDs came in. with the Theme "Blast from the
> AF past" and use one page for the very first AF cover.

That is quite a good idea - apart from the fact that I have them all I
think. Oh and also, any full commercial software (see para. above) would be
a problem.

l8r
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:59:06 -0800
From: "Mikey C" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: BVisions at Alive
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tudor davies <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48496
>
> Strange though, he didn't have an advert for Goal2000 or Putty Squad -
> surely he wants a copy to sell?

No, you got it wrong, he is trying to buy them back from all those
invisible people who voted for it in the Amiga Flame top ten games for
1999.

;)

Regards

Mikey C




------------------------------ message 48501 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:01:37 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <88u87q$[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <88u87q$[e-mail]>
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 06:59:06AM -0800, Mikey C wrote:

> No, you got it wrong, he is trying to buy them back from all those
> invisible people who voted for it in the Amiga Flame top ten games for
> 1999.
> ;)

LOL :)
OOoops - woke the baby :(

l8r
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------------------------------ message 48502 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:13:40 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Naughty Boy
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>         Last night I made a post titled "MP3 Downloading", asking how
you do
> it as I have only been on the net for a week. Imagine my suprise at
getting
> an email back saying it had been"put to moderator". What did I do
wrong? Is
> downloading these illegal? There was no bad language, it was short
and I
> had only posted about 6 or 7 emails in total over the 24 Hours.
>
> Comments please,Ben?

I'm not Ben either, but since we are many other able to answer I will
do my part..:D

I agree with another user on afb....downloading MP3's are not illegal...
Something the record companies don't like much.

If you don't know..I'll explain..
MP3 is a file format that one uses to pack down large audio files
called CDDA
from common audio CD's one CDDA song is about 50 meg in size...packing
this
with MP3 filters away some background noise one usually don't hear and
the
remaining size is about 5 megabytes...A complete Audio CD normaly
occupies
770MB of sound....the same record packed with MP3 would only take about
70MB..
all songs..

you need an MP3 player like AmigaAMP or mp (AmigaDOS) to play these
files...

you might even encounter files named MP,MP1 and MP2 which are older
versions
of the fileformat...

note that playing MP3 on Amiga is a hard task for the CPU unless you
have
a sound card like Prelude and it's MPEGit module...which is a single
chip
with the only task to un-pack and play MP3 files..and therefore
unloading
CPU time...

MP3 are usually 16bit or higher bitrated sound files...and playing them
on
an unexpanded Amiga will not sound very good...unless your force it
trough
a 14bit sound emulator....

The illegal thing about MP3 is to spread it....
You may freely pack any of your own CD collections as MP3 if you wish,
but you are not allowed to spread them around....

MP3 files can easilly be converted BACK to CDDA audio cd files by
converting
the MP3 file to a sound file format like WAV or AIFF....and then burned
onto
a CD...thus making your own music CD's..:D

Getting hold of MP3's might be a tricky problem on the net, unless you
got
contacts or friends who know people who know people....

IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is a good way to get MP3 files, but note that
they
take a while to download on a modem...

Hope this explains a few things about MP3 for you...


sincerely


Toffy



------------------------------ message 48503 ------------------------------
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 13:21:13 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: ami yellow pages
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 21-Feb-00 18:17:50 you said about:
  [afb] Re: ami yellow pages

[snip]

>Quit blaming us, how about his lack of plugging? I'd never heard of his site
>until a couple of days ago, and Ive never seen a link to it on any other
>amiga site, so maybe he is to blame. search engines dont give any results
>either

So, you've *never* seen the 88x33 yellow AYP button link? Or run a
website, other than your `homepage'....

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------------------------------ message 48504 ------------------------------
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 13:27:28 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Polls - was: New ABC
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello Alan L.M. Buxey, on 22-Feb-00 11:04:13 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Polls - was: New ABC

>hi,

>> V is not quite as stable as iBrowse 1.2x just yet, at least for my
>> liking.

>really?

Put it this way, it is `stable', but not as stable as iBrowse 1.2x on my
system. If I need Javascript, or if there's something iBrowse can't
handle, I'll use V. Don't even ask me about iBrowse 2.1... :-/

>> Besides, Cz.A.N. uses loads of tables and not frames... ;)

>duh! duh! *why* did I say frames??? why??? (brain goes into meltdown)

It's a side-effect of "repetitive posting syndrom"... ;-

>> Oh, I forgot the German one as well, can't remember the URL right now.

>www.amiga-news.de?

Nyep.

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------------------------------ message 48505 ------------------------------
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 13:34:18 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Blaming parents
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Hello Ben Vost, on 22-Feb-00 09:18:04 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Blaming parents

[snip]

>> You've been reading afb-ot via the web, haven't you?

>Why would I need to? After all, any time anyone mentions the words "parents"
>and "blame" in a sentence someone from afb-ot always pops up to ask if the
>person in question has been reading afb-ot. Now I do it just for a wind-up.

What are you trying to say, Ben? ;)

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------------------------------ message 48506 ------------------------------
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:0:14 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello Jani Mkitalo, on 22-Feb-00 01:22:16 you said about:
  [afb] Re: HTML question

[snip]

>Umm, I thought this could be fixed on NN (and any other browser for that
>matter) by adding CELLSPACING="0" into the TABLE tag. Of course, it
>only works fully if you turn borders off (which is the default setting
>anyway).

>Havent fooled around with NN for a while, so Im not quite sure this
>works...

If you're trying to line up some images using tables and want them
`butted' up against each other, some browsers will still leave a gap,
even when CELLPADDING & CELLSPACING are set to "0". The only way around
it, is to set the TD width and height to that of the image.

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------------------------------ message 48507 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:18:17 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s?
MIME-Version: 1.0
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> It was a joke by DCE. They glued a Blizzard PPC to an A500
accelerator and
> put it on display - it was in our January issue, the K=F6ln show report.
ehehe
wonder how many people that are now trying to adapt a PPC to their
stony A500'reds...:D

Toff..




------------------------------ message 48508 ------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:19:25 +0200
In-Reply-To: <88tqf9$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Ramlib problem.(Be sure,you know what it is first)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hello Nick

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:

>> Last night I was mucking about with my Amiga.
>>
>> To cut a long story short, now it refuses to boot up. (unless it's

>> floppy)
This sounds interesting,the same happened to me a month ago!

>> ( I can't get it to boot without startup sequence) I keep getting the
>> message ramlib failed to execute (or sometjing like that) and then the
>> option to suspend ot reboot.
>>
>> Any ideas as to how one goes from here.
>>
>> Last night I set up an OS30 partition on my HD (DH5) but my main one

>> my OS35  partition DH0.  Niether will boot just the blessed ramlib
>> error.
You have a PPC card and have installed OS3.5.Do you have your Harddrive
controller on your PPC card?


Be carefull with RDB Salve,i thought i had knackered my RDB too and wanted
to restore it!
I did not need to,there was nothing wrong with the Hard drive it was the new
SETPATCH!!

Cheers,
      Sean.

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------------------------------ message 48509 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:21:51 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hmmm....
The correct tag to use is FRAMEBORDER=0
this removes all visible frames in stated frame...
works with all browsers exept older versions of Ibrowse and current
versions of AWEB....those force frames to be visible with small borders
anyway,..

Toffy



------------------------------ message 48510 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:27:25 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Anyone here hungry?..
We all know that...well....ANY amiga user eats a lot of pizza...

Anyone here who would like to see my recipe for my home-made-pizza
either
in AF or on the AF cd?......to make on lonely nights when the hunger
gets you?....:D

What do you say Ben?...
Room for a column?

Hot step by step pictures and everything..:D

Would perhaps be best suited for a small directory on the cd but....

Just a question...I promise....the pizza is delicious!!!..:D


TOFFY!!!

/*...yet my path is clear,I wander in darknes...*/



------------------------------ message 48511 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:34:48 +0000
From: Matthew Garrett <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] A500 accelerators
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Does anyone still make/sell 030 accelerators for the 500? There are
reasons for me wanting one...

--
Matthew Garrett | [e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:38:54 -0800 (PST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ant?= <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Amiga spotting
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There was an article in Sunday's "Observer" about
whether the internet is good for you or not.  They
must have dug deep into the archives for the picture;
it was some bloke pirating games with an A500 and
X-Copy.  Ah, well.  At least the Amiga will be
remembered for something.

Digitiser amused me recently too.  They got a letter
complaining about the lack of "indie" talent in the
computer/console market, and Fat Sow was complaining
that no-one makes original games (because of the cost)
or 2D platform games (probably because no-one makes
decent planar chips any more).

Funny, I don't remember them being too sad about the
death of the Amiga, whose strong points have always
been originality, 2D games and, moreover, a nice and
healthy PD market.

Fools.
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------------------------------ message 48513 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:39:56 -0800
From: "Mikey C" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Ramlib problem.(Be sure,you know what it is first)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

[e-mail] (sean ft) wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48508

> You have a PPC card and have installed OS3.5.Do you have your
Harddrive
> controller on your PPC card?

No it runs out of the A1200 IDE interface.

> Be carefull with RDB Salve,i thought i had knackered my RDB too and
wanted
> to restore it!
> I did not need to,there was nothing wrong with the Hard drive it was
the new
> SETPATCH!!

Hmm, Perhaps I shall try a different setpatch.

Thanks, Something else for me to think about.

Regards

Mikey C




------------------------------ message 48514 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:52:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <88u7ti$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: BVisions
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Paul Laycock wrote:

> wouldn't put one near my Amiga, which means that, if I want a PCMCIA
> ethernet card (in the future), I'll need to send the mobo away!
> Nooooooo.....

you wont *have* to send it away...the CC_FIx isnt *required*. it just
solves the card reset problem.

alan



------------------------------ message 48515 ------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:59:08 +0200
In-Reply-To: <88uakc$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Ramlib problem.No other SETPATCH!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello Mikey

> No it runs out of the A1200 IDE interface.

That is also patched by the new Setpatch?

>
>> Be carefull with RDB Salve,i thought i had knackered my RDB too and
> wanted
>> to restore it!
>> I did not need to,there was nothing wrong with the Hard drive it was
> the new
>> SETPATCH!!
>
> Hmm, Perhaps I shall try a different setpatch.

*_DO NOT USE ANY OTHER SET PATCH_* if you are using OS3.5 as this contains
the NSD:Patch
aswell.You could try looking in DEVS: for a file called NSDPatch.cfg and
editing it in ed
to suit your setup as i did.After that i had no more problems.

                            Cheers,
                                  Sean.


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------------------------------ message 48516 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:10:18 -0800
From: "Mikey C" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Ramlib problem.No other SETPATCH!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

[e-mail] (sean ft) wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48515
> Hello Mikey
>
> > No it runs out of the A1200 IDE interface.
>
> That is also patched by the new Setpatch?

I don't know. Anyhow it would be difficult to edit a file in a
partition I
cannot access. :(

Regards

Mikey C




------------------------------ message 48517 ------------------------------
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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 16:12:22 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: A500 accelerators
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:34:48 +0000, [e-mail] wibbled...

> Does anyone still make/sell 030 accelerators for the 500? There are
> reasons for me wanting one...

Power used to do them; they might still have some in stock.

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From: "Oliver Masters" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:25:54 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all,

I am looking to get a PCMCIA network card to add my A1200 into my home LAN
(in anticipation of cable modems).

My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential? What will
happen if I don't bother with it? and finally; Does anyone know where I can
lay my hands on a list of suitable network cards (preferably with UTP
connection rather than BNC) that have been proven to work properly on an
A1200 (with or without the fix).

Phew.

See ya later,

Oll



------------------------------ message 48519 ------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:26:50 -0800
From: "David McMinn" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga spotting
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
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> whether the internet is good for you or not.  They
> must have dug deep into the archives for the picture;
> it was some bloke pirating games with an A500 and
> X-Copy.  Ah, well.  At least the Amiga will be

Of course. Haven't you seen the new version of XCopy that can download
files and then copy them to floppy drives over the net? ;)

<snip Fat Sow moaning ;) >

> Funny, I don't remember them being too sad about the
> death of the Amiga, whose strong points have always
> been originality, 2D games and, moreover, a nice and
> healthy PD market.

It was probably one of their satirical comments about the Amiga being
dead.

Again.





------------------------------ message 48520 ------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Sean FT)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:33:15 +0200
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: A500 accelerators,try this firm?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Matthew

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Does anyone still make/sell 030 accelerators for the 500? There are
> reasons for me wanting one...

Try this German firm they sell 2nd hand(Gebrauchte) stuff aswell,there ar=
e a
few on their list of hardware.Also klick on their "Schn=E4ppchenmarkt
button"(special offers market). =

http://www.pernat.de

                      Cheers,
                            Sean.


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m
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

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------------------------------ message 48521 ------------------------------
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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:39:32 +0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?
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On 21 Feb 00, at 14:30, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> how much does it cost to upgrade an A500 to >os2.x these days
anyway??

It's a fiver cheaper than it is to upgrade an A1200 to OS3.1/3.5

Gerry


------------------------------ message 48522 ------------------------------
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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:39:37 +0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136
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On 21 Feb 00, at 17:13, Robert Johnston wrote:

> Maybe that's for the best, after all, look at what the discussions on
> AF135 did... Start off Hate-mail from Errol (j/k) and Prejudiced
> comments from all... Maybe it would be best if AF ceased to
exist...

Was that a joke? Sometimes smileys *are* useful, you know.

Gerry


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